No longer applicable. This is another change to the Watchtower doctrine and thus another reason to publish another book that can be purchased, oh excuse me, donated for, and use for a study.
SOP
separating of the sheep and the goats you can live forever in paradise on earth, 1982, p 183, states: since christ returned and sat down on his heavenly throne, all humankind has been on judgment... during the presentjudgment people are being separated as goats to christs left hand or as sheep to his right.. the wt of jan. 1, 1988, p 16, confirmed this: yes, all mankind is being scrutinized to see who are sheep and who are goats.... the messages are broadcast by human mouthpieces under angelic direction.
a person is identified as a sheep or as a goat by the way he responds to the angelic messages.
during this 20 th century, only jehovahs witnesses have cooperated with the angels in this vital work.. .
No longer applicable. This is another change to the Watchtower doctrine and thus another reason to publish another book that can be purchased, oh excuse me, donated for, and use for a study.
SOP
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i will like to share some facts about the spanish congregations in usa.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Some of the spanish speaking groups are starting to recognize this and use their shear force of numbers to make changes. Good for them! Again, as the Searcher says, we are seeing the love in action...
i could go on and on about my personal journey over the last 2 years or so, but i don't need to.
everything i needed to hear to finally lay my doubts to rest happened on one meeting night.
it could only be divine providence.
And the technology was reportedly sold for millions!
i know nothing about legal matters, but there are those here who are quite keen at these things.. if they changed the no blood teaching, would this open the watchtower society up to litigation?.
No need to change it now. It is SOOO convoluted that know one really knows what is allowed and what is not. You know, when the prohibition was given to Noah and centuries later to the apostles, there was a multi-paged disclaimer that accompanied it.
SOP
ok third rant since last night.
a "demonstration" was given on how to give some brochures and in this demo it starts:.
"hi im suchandsuch and im one of jehovahs witnesses".
Read the original hebrew of the story of Jepthah, NOT the organization's spin on it. Tell me what you think about God after you finally understand what happens to his daughter.
SOP
although i really hate the wt/jw shunning policy, which especially huts those who have been df'd, i find i am in a kind of way doing it to my jw family.. i do not include them in anything i do, in my own family gatherings, and i cannot be arsed to inform them of things going on in my family, or to even go and see them, unless really necessary.. this all adds up to a kind of "reverse shunning", and i do feel a twinge of guilt about it, but it is simply how things have become.. do you, fellow faders, find a similar thing happening ?.
Phizzy,
you might be surprised that alot of people shun their families who are NOT JW's. I have inadvertently been shunning members of my family for several years now. Where once we would get together and there would always be DEEP spiritual discussions, now there is simply family banter. I cannot move myself to engage in any more spiritual discussions where the ultimate end is ONLY what the organization states is the truth. Because of my recognizable shift away from these type of discussions, there is a palpable tension, so I have decided that to avoid tension in my life and the lives of others, I am better off not associating with them.
SOP
ok so you had a bad experience and you stopped going to church which ever one that is.
but did you stop believing or are you that peeved you blame god etc.
i would encourage you to humble yourself before your messiah and seek him, he will let himself be found by you and come dwells within you.
Psychotic ramblings of an overactive mind. Give it a rest! For one, if you know absolutely anything about the Bible, God invites you TO THE CHRIST. It is an invitation, not a search. If you are searching Mr Maccauk11, you are not speaking of biblical Christianity. It is NOT a quest, it is a wedding to which you are invited. Maybe you should check your mailbox, maybe it got lost amongst the weekly advertisements.
Good luck on that quest....I suggest you read Dante's Inferno...a lot of cool ramblings about a quest in that book as well.
SOP
i got bored at the meeting and read the bible reading and could not believe some of the false prophetic garbage being commented....anyways heres what i fiund interesting ;-).
7 after this i saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding tight the four winds of the earth, so that no wind could blow on the earth or on the sea or on any tree.
2 and i saw another angel ascending from the sunrise, having a seal of the living god; and he called with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, 3 saying: do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the slaves of our god in their foreheads.
Great points! I use to sit and just read the book of Revelation...fascinating. Over the years, though, I have come to learn that it is simply a book of alegory and symbolism referent to Roman rulership and their intolerance of Christianity. NOT even written by the apostle John, but rather some othe John over a century later. The arguments against even putting it in as part of the biblical canon are many. It was used by the early Church to compel worship and alms. Sorry....but that's just part of the history. So, now when I read it....I don't try to make any sense of it or apply it to modern day.
SOP
the changes are in paragraph 7 and 8 in the first chapter of draw close to jehovah book, and i fail to see any doctrine change, only the gb trying to cover up possible mistakes they've made and potential embarrassment of worldly sources knowing what jehovah's name means while they were wrong.
let's examine this new light they quote with this letter.
let's see a word for word comparison on what many will be talking about in meetings about the wonderful new light and evidence that they are the faithful slave...... .
EoM,
It is my opinion that it is the first step in the evolution of a religious organization the insertion of the term "understood" and "understand." These terms allow change and morphing. We believe denotes a basis for that belief, "faith is the assured..." but, to "understand" is quickly and painlessly altered.
SOP
re: adjustments to draw close to jehovah.
dear brothers:.
some changes involving our understanding of the meaning of gods name and what it re p- resents have been made to the first chapter of draw close to jehovah.
@ Lost Generation....AWESOME and Oh So True.
To the topic, get ready for a lot of online adjustments. I can just imagine the scorn and disdain when a "not-up-to-date witness" comments using the OLD information. Godless heathen!!! My God have mercy on your soul!
SOP